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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The loud call for opponents of Prop. 8 to Ã¢â‚¬Å“get over it and accept the will of the peopleÃ¢â‚¬Â is embarrassing for teachers of social studies and American government in California public and private schools.  Clearly, at least 52% of California voters missed the lesson where we learned about how our system of government was designed with a network of political checks and balances to prevent what is called the Ã¢â‚¬Å“tyranny of the majority,Ã¢â‚¬Â to ensure that our system of government ultimately protects the rights of minorities against what any given majority (religious in the case of Prop. 8) might care to legislate into law.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps you also missed the news that a consortium of civil rights groups have filed suit against Prop. 8 (story at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://equaljusticesociety.org/prop8/&quot;&gt;http://equaljusticesociety.org/prop8/&lt;/a&gt;).  They know that any legislation that curtails civil rights for one group that is allowed to stand, regardless of how they may personally feel about that minority, opens the door as precedent to legislate against the rights of another.  Perhaps thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s another group out there who doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t like having Native American tribes own all those casinos, or business signs in only Spanish, Korean or Farsi, and perhaps we should do something about those obnoxiously ornate Mormon temples all over the place.  And what about those Knights of Columbus?  Does anyone doubt their intimate connection to the Roman Catholic Church?  Perhaps a majority of us should pass a law so that the entire American Roman Catholic church is taxed as a private corporation consequent to the political activity of their Blessed Knights.  Perhaps those of you who hate one minority and would deprive them of civil rights might reconsider your political stand (not your religious beliefs) if you consider the precedent being set by Proposition 8.  It may be your very beliefs that become the next target for oppression despite your personal belief in their universality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whether you believe the Earth is flat, that Adam walked with dinosaurs, that Shiva had six arms, that crystals cure cancer, that fairies live in willows, that Jesus saves you from your sins, or that people choose their sexual identity, your freedom is protected by that Constitution you are trying to change.  God save you from yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The loud call for opponents of Prop. 8 to Ã¢â‚¬Å“get over it and accept the will of the peopleÃ¢â‚¬Â is embarrassing for teachers of social studies and American government in California public and private schools.  Clearly, at least 52% of California voters missed the lesson where we learned about how our system of government was designed with a network of political checks and balances to prevent what is called the Ã¢â‚¬Å“tyranny of the majority,Ã¢â‚¬Â to ensure that our system of government ultimately protects the rights of minorities against what any given majority (religious in the case of Prop. <img src='http://betterthanblank.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> might care to legislate into law.  </p>
<p>Perhaps you also missed the news that a consortium of civil rights groups have filed suit against Prop. 8 (story at: <a href="http://equaljusticesociety.org/prop8/">http://equaljusticesociety.org/prop8/</a>).  They know that any legislation that curtails civil rights for one group that is allowed to stand, regardless of how they may personally feel about that minority, opens the door as precedent to legislate against the rights of another.  Perhaps thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s another group out there who doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t like having Native American tribes own all those casinos, or business signs in only Spanish, Korean or Farsi, and perhaps we should do something about those obnoxiously ornate Mormon temples all over the place.  And what about those Knights of Columbus?  Does anyone doubt their intimate connection to the Roman Catholic Church?  Perhaps a majority of us should pass a law so that the entire American Roman Catholic church is taxed as a private corporation consequent to the political activity of their Blessed Knights.  Perhaps those of you who hate one minority and would deprive them of civil rights might reconsider your political stand (not your religious beliefs) if you consider the precedent being set by Proposition 8.  It may be your very beliefs that become the next target for oppression despite your personal belief in their universality.</p>
<p>Whether you believe the Earth is flat, that Adam walked with dinosaurs, that Shiva had six arms, that crystals cure cancer, that fairies live in willows, that Jesus saves you from your sins, or that people choose their sexual identity, your freedom is protected by that Constitution you are trying to change.  God save you from yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s get ready to Rrrrrrrrrrummmmmble! - betterthanblank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let&#8217;s get ready to Rrrrrrrrrrummmmmble! - betterthanblank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our discussion on California&#8217;s Prop 8 (we didn&#8217;t even attempt Prop 4) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say THANK YOU for everyone who&#039;s been commenting on this very powerful subject. Thanks for being respectful, and I hope no matter what happens tomorrow - we&#039;ll all learn to love more and more like Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say THANK YOU for everyone who&#8217;s been commenting on this very powerful subject. Thanks for being respectful, and I hope no matter what happens tomorrow &#8211; we&#8217;ll all learn to love more and more like Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Roma Stromberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roma Stromberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Check out the following from California Education Code 51933.

Instruction shall be appropriate for students of all genders, sexual orientations, and ethnic and cultural backgrounds, and it shall be accessible for English language learner students and students with disabilities. Instruction shall encourage communication between students and their families and shall teach respect for marriage and committed relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Check out the following from California Education Code 51933.</p>
<p>Instruction shall be appropriate for students of all genders, sexual orientations, and ethnic and cultural backgrounds, and it shall be accessible for English language learner students and students with disabilities. Instruction shall encourage communication between students and their families and shall teach respect for marriage and committed relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: Roma Stromberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roma Stromberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that marriage is a covenant between two people and God. Marriage should be santioned and implemented by the God and then the church not the government. By making it part of our constitution, we make it available to everyone. I believe that the government should santion and implement civil contracts.

The other night I had a non-christian ask me why the christians don&#039;t write a proposition making common-law marriage illegal because it is adultery and adultery is actually one of the ten comandments. Why do we tolerate a law that gives people who live together and intentionally not marry, the same rights as married people, i.e. they can file their taxes jointly? If we are going to get into the business of making laws, we need to be biblically consistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that marriage is a covenant between two people and God. Marriage should be santioned and implemented by the God and then the church not the government. By making it part of our constitution, we make it available to everyone. I believe that the government should santion and implement civil contracts.</p>
<p>The other night I had a non-christian ask me why the christians don&#8217;t write a proposition making common-law marriage illegal because it is adultery and adultery is actually one of the ten comandments. Why do we tolerate a law that gives people who live together and intentionally not marry, the same rights as married people, i.e. they can file their taxes jointly? If we are going to get into the business of making laws, we need to be biblically consistent.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa...here is some input on Prop 8:
I strongly encourage you to consider voting yes for proposition 8.

The California civil code already guarantees full rights for homosexual civil unions; proposition 8 does not take away those rights.

However, if proposition 8 is NOT passed, our view and right to teach marriage as being the union between one man and one woman WILL be taken away.

The consequences of this would be very ugly and far reaching.  Furthermore, the process by which California has now arrived at actually granting homosexual marriage licenses is a travesty Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a perversion of the democratic process where imperial judges are overriding the Ã¢â‚¬Ëœconsent of the governedÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ and imperiling our culture.

I encourage you to watch this video which explains some of the reasons for a Ã¢â‚¬Ëœyes on 8Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ vote in a pretty fair way.

I also encourage you to check out the http://www.protectmarriage.com/ website for further info.

My strongest encouragement to you is to vote YES on Prop 8. Protect marriage. 

peace out...

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rob Js last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://thoseguysatlambs.blogspot.com/2008/11/fall-back-to-standard-time-tonight.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fall Back to Standard Time - Tonight!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa&#8230;here is some input on Prop 8:<br />
I strongly encourage you to consider voting yes for proposition 8.</p>
<p>The California civil code already guarantees full rights for homosexual civil unions; proposition 8 does not take away those rights.</p>
<p>However, if proposition 8 is NOT passed, our view and right to teach marriage as being the union between one man and one woman WILL be taken away.</p>
<p>The consequences of this would be very ugly and far reaching.  Furthermore, the process by which California has now arrived at actually granting homosexual marriage licenses is a travesty Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a perversion of the democratic process where imperial judges are overriding the Ã¢â‚¬Ëœconsent of the governedÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ and imperiling our culture.</p>
<p>I encourage you to watch this video which explains some of the reasons for a Ã¢â‚¬Ëœyes on 8Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ vote in a pretty fair way.</p>
<p>I also encourage you to check out the <a href="http://www.protectmarriage.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.protectmarriage.com/</a> website for further info.</p>
<p>My strongest encouragement to you is to vote YES on Prop 8. Protect marriage. </p>
<p>peace out&#8230;</p>
<p><abbr><em>Rob Js last blog post..<a href="http://thoseguysatlambs.blogspot.com/2008/11/fall-back-to-standard-time-tonight.html" rel="nofollow">Fall Back to Standard Time &#8211; Tonight!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Lindah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a born again Christian and I also find this whole Prop.8 thing confusing. Didn&#039;t the pilgrims and others come to this country for freedom. Religious and other! I believe God instituted Marriage between  one Man and one Woman. But.... I also believe we have freedom of choice. Shouldn&#039;t the Gays be allowed that freedom of choice. I have 5 children. If any of them witnessed a gay marriage or are read books I find inapproiate I think It would open a discussion.. an opportunity to instruct your children in what you believe. I 100% believe the Bible but I 100% dont believe the Government has the right to tell people they can or cannot marry based on their sexual preferences. Im still deciding Yes or No on 8. I am looking for more  Christian input. I really like what Heather has had to say. God is gracious.  Lets Love everyone to Christ. Spend money on feeding the hungry or stopping Child trafficking not on campaigns!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a born again Christian and I also find this whole Prop.8 thing confusing. Didn&#8217;t the pilgrims and others come to this country for freedom. Religious and other! I believe God instituted Marriage between  one Man and one Woman. But&#8230;. I also believe we have freedom of choice. Shouldn&#8217;t the Gays be allowed that freedom of choice. I have 5 children. If any of them witnessed a gay marriage or are read books I find inapproiate I think It would open a discussion.. an opportunity to instruct your children in what you believe. I 100% believe the Bible but I 100% dont believe the Government has the right to tell people they can or cannot marry based on their sexual preferences. Im still deciding Yes or No on 8. I am looking for more  Christian input. I really like what Heather has had to say. God is gracious.  Lets Love everyone to Christ. Spend money on feeding the hungry or stopping Child trafficking not on campaigns!</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should all sit down and argue about circumcision next....will it keep us out of heaven.....This whole thing makes my heart hurt. I bet Satan is loving how distracted we all are. I say instead of a day of fasting for, or against, prop 8 we should do a day of fasting to praise God for his amazing grace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all sit down and argue about circumcision next&#8230;.will it keep us out of heaven&#8230;..This whole thing makes my heart hurt. I bet Satan is loving how distracted we all are. I say instead of a day of fasting for, or against, prop 8 we should do a day of fasting to praise God for his amazing grace.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara AKA Alex's Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara AKA Alex's Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether the parents agreed or not wasn&#039;t the point. The point was that children missed school for a trip with questionable value - I certainly wouldn&#039;t allow my child to miss school to attend a teacher&#039;s wedding, gay or straight. I think it was exploitive to use that wedding in that way. If we are to believe that the public school system will not use this as an opportunity to teach the acceptability of homosexuality to kids, with or without permission, we are kidding ourselves. If that were the case then why would the California Teachers Association donate a million dollars to defeat the proposition. If it didn&#039;t affect education they wouldn&#039;t care - ask a Christian teacher what&#039;s in the current curriculum. One teacher in our church has already mentioned that liberal teachers in her school are already discussing how they can fit this into the classroom and she teaches elementary school.

I have no problem loving any sinner - they come through the door at our church every Sunday and I am one of the biggest. The difference being I am seeking forgiveness and wanting to grow in my walk and spend more time in the Word. In John 8 Jesus intervened in the stoning of a woman caught in adultery - he showed compassion and saved her life but his words to her were &quot;Go now and leave your life of sin.&quot; She did not ask Him to condone her lifestyle and change the laws of the land to accomodate her desire to live in a way contrary to God&#039;s law. Marriage was instituted by God before it became a legal contract and even now homosexuals are granted civil unions which give them the rights they desire - large companies grant them status as domestic partners and no one can discriminate against them any more than they could any other minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether the parents agreed or not wasn&#8217;t the point. The point was that children missed school for a trip with questionable value &#8211; I certainly wouldn&#8217;t allow my child to miss school to attend a teacher&#8217;s wedding, gay or straight. I think it was exploitive to use that wedding in that way. If we are to believe that the public school system will not use this as an opportunity to teach the acceptability of homosexuality to kids, with or without permission, we are kidding ourselves. If that were the case then why would the California Teachers Association donate a million dollars to defeat the proposition. If it didn&#8217;t affect education they wouldn&#8217;t care &#8211; ask a Christian teacher what&#8217;s in the current curriculum. One teacher in our church has already mentioned that liberal teachers in her school are already discussing how they can fit this into the classroom and she teaches elementary school.</p>
<p>I have no problem loving any sinner &#8211; they come through the door at our church every Sunday and I am one of the biggest. The difference being I am seeking forgiveness and wanting to grow in my walk and spend more time in the Word. In John 8 Jesus intervened in the stoning of a woman caught in adultery &#8211; he showed compassion and saved her life but his words to her were &#8220;Go now and leave your life of sin.&#8221; She did not ask Him to condone her lifestyle and change the laws of the land to accomodate her desire to live in a way contrary to God&#8217;s law. Marriage was instituted by God before it became a legal contract and even now homosexuals are granted civil unions which give them the rights they desire &#8211; large companies grant them status as domestic partners and no one can discriminate against them any more than they could any other minority.</p>
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		<title>By: Roma Stromberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roma Stromberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbara. There is alot of inappropriate behavoir and deception going on by both parties. It breaks my heart. I posted a link above regarding the &quot;wedding&quot; field trip. Obviously, many many people feel very strongly about this issue....about 65 million dollars strong now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara. There is alot of inappropriate behavoir and deception going on by both parties. It breaks my heart. I posted a link above regarding the &#8220;wedding&#8221; field trip. Obviously, many many people feel very strongly about this issue&#8230;.about 65 million dollars strong now.</p>
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