Comments on: Church Planters = Church Pirates?

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:48:01 +0000

I have had this happen on 2 occasions. Other Christians in the city joint for a season and then they start taking people aside to pray for them. Soon those people are meeting somewhere else. They say we are all part of one big church family so everyone should be free to come and go as they please. I have reached a point like Pastor Ed Young where if this is not exposed it will eventually cripple churches and many more Pastors will throw in the Towel.

By: Blue

Blue — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:07:59 +0000

Surprised to see this and the blog and their paucity of scripture. Clearly this pastor is sitting down with God’s flock given to his oversight and simply sharing what’s on his heart. Is he right? Don’t know, but God gives us insights…
Prov 6:16-19 and others about “division” – God hates anyone who causes division among the brothers.
Philipians 4 – “I can do all things thru Christ” means we don’t need a posse to go to do what God asks, and “Whatever is true, right, honorable, pure, whatever is lovely, of good report, if there’s any excellence, anything worthy of praise, let your mind dwell on these things” means we needn’t occupy ourselves with what’s wrong with our brothers/churches. Leave or tattle to Jesus on ‘em; don’t start a coup.

Now, can a member develop a different ministry angle, or be called of God to minister in a niche not being addressed? You bet – but it won’t involve fomenting rebellion within the church MEMBERSHIP (sometimes leadership needs a wake-up, e.g., Martin Luther). Barnabas and Mark left Paul over such a difference. BUT, late in Paul’s life, he’s asking for whom? Mark. If we’re not about reconciliation, we only read the Bible as literature.

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By: Chris Stout

Chris Stout — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:19:56 +0000

Wow,

I haven’t been able to watch the whole video but I wanted to comment before I lost my train of thought. I agree with Eric and the others. Obviously someone close to him recently planted a new church. It almost sounds like a diatribe that I hear from my chain of command about loyalty and this and the other. Poor woes me like.

It just seems that his ego must have been hurt. All of us have ego’s per say, just some are more humble then others. None the less, why did he pick such a venue like that to speak about it? Weird…

Again agreeing with Eric, it didn’t seem like a planned lesson. Something from within that was really bothering him. I don’t know this guy and by no means do I think poorly of him. Just an observation from a Sailor’s Point of View…

Oh yeah, there are still Pirates. Look in the Persian Gulf area…you’ll find a few…

By: Dan

Dan — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:45:23 +0000

Yea granted I’ve never lived through it or can relate personally but some of the language is pretty “weird”. I certainly don’t agree with somebody purposefully conspiring to “pirate” a group of people to start a church. But he just really sounds insecure about something that is God’s to begin with.

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betterthanblank » Blog Archive » More on Church Pirates — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:28:00 +0000

[...] I posted on Ed Young’s Church Pirate rant a couple weeks ago and we had some discussion here about it. I’ve also gotten a few emails about it. I commented on Ed’s blog and of course I was moderated, buh-bye! Now Christianity Today has picked up on the trail, and they’ve got some interesting comments going over there. Just wanted to keep y’all informed. I think this is a very interesting discussion. Some additional thoughts. [...]

By: alex

alex — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:35:58 +0000

Hmmm: “me”, this is my first comment that I’ve considered deleting, just because it’s anonymous and it’s rude. But for sake of argument, I’ll leave it. Just know this, I appreciated if you bring something a little more solid to the discussion.

By: me

me — Thu, 29 May 2008 03:56:54 +0000

I completely agree with Ed.

You are all just jealous morons.

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By: Kent Kingery

Kent Kingery — Tue, 27 May 2008 13:14:24 +0000

I’m amazed by this video. Amazed at how petulant he sounds. Amazed that he would take time and resources to tape this in front of his entire church staff and then post it publicly. Amazed that he seems to equate the church with corporate America.

Look, I have a lot of respect for Ed Young, Jr. I support his ministry, I read his books, I watch his TV snippets. He has a heart for teaching and has built a wonderful ministry that has touched thousands and thousands of people. But it’s hard for me to watch this video because I think it speaks more to pettiness and worldliness than anything else.

Sometimes splits in a church happen for stupid reasons (differences in musical taste, etc.), and sometimes they happen for legitimate reasons (pastor got too consumed with his image or his positional authority or his vision). In the former case, people who follow the “pirate” (very poor choice of words, in my opinion) are following their shallow instincts. In the latter case, they are fleeing from a ministry that no longer ministers.

I personally think this video was a warning shot across the bow to someone in his own church who he perceives is getting ready to “steal” “his” people. But they aren’t “his” people, right? They are God’s people…