Comments on: You Need to Read This http://betterthanblank.org/you-need-to-read-this/ Alex McLean's life & thoughts Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:56:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Leadership… Really? - betterthanblank http://betterthanblank.org/you-need-to-read-this/comment-page-1/#comment-3846 Leadership… Really? - betterthanblank Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:07:33 +0000 http://betterthanblank.org/?p=1617#comment-3846 [...] already blogged about this, but Brent had an excellent post on Leader Man Vs. Servant [...] [...] already blogged about this, but Brent had an excellent post on Leader Man Vs. Servant [...]

]]> By: James McLean http://betterthanblank.org/you-need-to-read-this/comment-page-1/#comment-3707 James McLean Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:27:40 +0000 http://betterthanblank.org/?p=1617#comment-3707 also, i'm not suggesting that "the pastor" be in every single persons life, this is impossible, but that he creates a culture where people are encouraged in that way, he being an example of that. of course this is assuming you believe in church leadership where "the pastor" is the head of everything. also, i’m not suggesting that “the pastor” be in every single persons life, this is impossible, but that he creates a culture where people are encouraged in that way, he being an example of that. of course this is assuming you believe in church leadership where “the pastor” is the head of everything.

]]> By: James McLean http://betterthanblank.org/you-need-to-read-this/comment-page-1/#comment-3706 James McLean Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:16:45 +0000 http://betterthanblank.org/?p=1617#comment-3706 i don't think anyone was bashing the big church guys. i think that the important thing is that we are making disciples, this is what we were commanded to do. this involves being with people and in their lives. when your church gets so big that you can't do that, then it is time to get some of those people together and plant a church. i don’t think anyone was bashing the big church guys. i think that the important thing is that we are making disciples, this is what we were commanded to do. this involves being with people and in their lives. when your church gets so big that you can’t do that, then it is time to get some of those people together and plant a church.

]]> By: alex http://betterthanblank.org/you-need-to-read-this/comment-page-1/#comment-3705 alex Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:30:45 +0000 http://betterthanblank.org/?p=1617#comment-3705 Billy, that brings up a good point. Actually lots of good points. My main concern is that somehow we've set up the "LeaderMan" as the ultimate goal of leadership. Not always, but it seems to be a current trend. "run with the big dogs", "leaders lead leaders", "swim with the big fish", "invest in winners", "get the right people in the right seats", "don't waste your time with time suckers", etc. People are different, with different gifts, needs, methods of leading/following. But to try and mold leaders into LeaderMan, I think is a recipe for failure. That being said, there are some points that don't resonate completely with me. But it's the idea of a leader being humble, being honest, being real, having true integrity, and realizing that to be a great leader you must be a great servant... To me, those are the goals - not leading leaders, not building empires or legacy's. God lifts up the humble - they find their strength in him, and have no way to explain their success' except to give God the glory... Billy, that brings up a good point. Actually lots of good points. My main concern is that somehow we’ve set up the “LeaderMan” as the ultimate goal of leadership. Not always, but it seems to be a current trend.
“run with the big dogs”, “leaders lead leaders”, “swim with the big fish”, “invest in winners”, “get the right people in the right seats”, “don’t waste your time with time suckers”, etc.
People are different, with different gifts, needs, methods of leading/following. But to try and mold leaders into LeaderMan, I think is a recipe for failure.
That being said, there are some points that don’t resonate completely with me. But it’s the idea of a leader being humble, being honest, being real, having true integrity, and realizing that to be a great leader you must be a great servant… To me, those are the goals – not leading leaders, not building empires or legacy’s.
God lifts up the humble – they find their strength in him, and have no way to explain their success’ except to give God the glory…

]]> By: Karl http://betterthanblank.org/you-need-to-read-this/comment-page-1/#comment-3704 Karl Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:12:15 +0000 http://betterthanblank.org/?p=1617#comment-3704 Killer post. I need to be more like that. Killer post. I need to be more like that.

]]> By: Billy Chia http://betterthanblank.org/you-need-to-read-this/comment-page-1/#comment-3702 Billy Chia Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:52:53 +0000 http://betterthanblank.org/?p=1617#comment-3702 Alex, Although I think this is pretty cute, I can't really agree with all of it. I don't agree that the most effective model for every church everywhere is for the pastor to know what the inside of every single kitchen looks like of every single person who is part of his church community. That only limits the number of people you reach. Some leaders are good at that style of leadership, but not all. If you are small church guy, be one, with pride - there's nothing wrong with it. But don't bash the big church guys - they are good guys too. Craig Groeschel has some good words on the matter here: http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/09/11/letting-people-go-with-grace/ Alex,
Although I think this is pretty cute, I can’t really agree with all of it. I don’t agree that the most effective model for every church everywhere is for the pastor to know what the inside of every single kitchen looks like of every single person who is part of his church community.

That only limits the number of people you reach. Some leaders are good at that style of leadership, but not all. If you are small church guy, be one, with pride – there’s nothing wrong with it. But don’t bash the big church guys – they are good guys too.

Craig Groeschel has some good words on the matter here:
http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/09/11/letting-people-go-with-grace/

]]> By: eric http://betterthanblank.org/you-need-to-read-this/comment-page-1/#comment-3699 eric Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:48:28 +0000 http://betterthanblank.org/?p=1617#comment-3699 Awesome... I was trying not to do it, but I can't tell you how much I resonate with this list. Most of the past leaders I've worked for (not all) have been "Leader Men" but my current leader is definitely a "Servant Leader"... almost to a fault. I'll take that anyday... What a great example to strive for! I'm probably more like the LeaderMan than I want to admit... :( erics last blog post..<a href="http://ericbeeman.blogspot.com/2008/09/worship-confession-landslide.html" rel="nofollow">Worship Confession - Landslide</a> Awesome… I was trying not to do it, but I can’t tell you how much I resonate with this list. Most of the past leaders I’ve worked for (not all) have been “Leader Men” but my current leader is definitely a “Servant Leader”… almost to a fault. I’ll take that anyday… What a great example to strive for!

I’m probably more like the LeaderMan than I want to admit… :(

erics last blog post..Worship Confession – Landslide

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